Curse

Riceboi · Jun 04, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by Antheus

The "most skilled" players bought their FoW with Protective Bond.

And there really isn't any skill difference between PB and SF builds. They are/were overpowered and allowed limitless farming.

And just like in the days of old: farm soon, farm fast. It all ends eventually.

IMO the new perma sf build is better than PB ever was. Except with PB you could aggro eerything on map and go afk for like 15 hours and come back and it would be in the exact same spot you left it in, of course assuming you didn't disconnect.

Age · Jun 05, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

The only thing I have to say about this relating to ectos since the other thread is closed is that some may give up on wanting to get their FoW.I have an officer who wanted FoW for his Ele his main char.He wasn't getting any ecto drops when going down there as myself he gave up on his Ele and got his Monk some acient from Elona.

This player played the game right with all charactors not getting any runs and doing all missions and quests.This is what he recieved he hasn't played in a few months although still remains an officer in my guild as has stuck it out side by side with me.He did this through grouping not farming in the UW as it is meant to be and he wasted his time doing this.

This bears nothing to those who are doing it right by partying it up and go and clear the UW.I don't see to much with ursan groups atleast they are grouping.When GW 2 comes out the prices will hit rock bottum and those that don't have their sets of FoW may get them then.

I don't see how SF is effecting the GW economy as prices were at 5.5K this morning.

ReZDoGG · Jun 05, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

I don't think it will ruin anything, I think easier farming would help the economy if anything. People will have money now!! I been selling alot of stuff lately, more than usually it seems. I been getting rid of stuff quickly. I don't think ecto drops will hurt prices of items at all, if anything it will help people make money so we can sell stuff easier. I think the last update was one of the best things Anet ever did to be honest, that and including the new skill balance system. People are actually having fun again in the game, why take away such a good thing? Things don't seem so far out of reach, like FoW armor and Chaos Gloves. Yes, more people will probably have those armors, but why not? whats wrong with people getting themselves nice stuff to feel better about playing the game? If you take away all that, less people would play, and Anet would be cattering to the rich... Richer get richer, poorer get poorer. Props to Anet, they finally doin something right these days. Anet is finally on the right track to make their games waaaay more successful.. with all these great new changes, its kinda making me alot more excited about GW2. They continue on the road to gameplay perfection... we can expect bigger and better things to come.

Prices will not go down, because people are making more money, if anything some prices might go up a bit from people having money and trying to outbid eachother. The only reason why prices go down for items, is when an Item is over farmed such as Ele Swords... thats the only reason anything goes down in prices, the more people have them the cheaper they get. In this case, Ectos have nothing to do with any of that. Best rethink your whole argument.

If it really bothers you that much that people are actually having alot more fun playing GW, then go play another game where people can be miserable such as yourself. I also don't really see the point in people complaining about good things that happen in the game? Take away all the good things, then what are you left with? jack shit thats what. Also, Gw is not a way of life, its a way to entertain ourselves, and thats means we are supposed to have FUN! Knuckleheads I tell ya...

Red Sonya · Jun 05, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Shadow Form is just fine and I'm all for it. Now EVERYONE that wants Ectos can get them and ectos will drop like ambers and jadites and EVERYONE can afford FOW armors as it should be.

Just remember for everyone who doesn't like overpowered skills there's 5 more that do.

VanDamselx · Jun 05, 2008, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Economy? Ha.

It's A Me · Jun 05, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34

easier fow armour? im all for it. i can now finish off my bottom half of it without spending hours on end.

Nemesis of God · Jun 05, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

As nihilist / environmentalist, I don't care about economy, nor in game, nor in real life. Ecto's price already dropped from 10k to 5k, that's half of it's original price. So do I care about that it drop another half. Well, I care somehow since, then there will be more Obsidian armors = they price is dropped.

Aww well...

fenix · Jun 05, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Unless ecto drops below 4k, I don't really care that much. And I doubt that will happen, since the price has been like this since duping started...and if duping can't lower the price any more than it is, then NOTHING can.

The Way Out · Jun 05, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

If I may ask, how was Prot Bond so ridiculously imba? I wasn't playing when it got nerfed.

It must have been insane to go toe-to-toe with invincibility.

drools at the memories....

the true invincamonk!!! I should turn this into an Anet bashing thread for nerfing it! hahahahaha

Yawgmoth · Jun 05, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Then why not add a new Elite PvE skill:

God Mode 5e 10r
Elite Skill. For 5..60 seconds you are invincible (cannot be targetted and damaged). (Lightbringer Title Track)

Imagine it.
If they really added it, I'm sure there would be thousands of people defending it and saying BS like:

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God Mode is just fine and I'm all for it. Now EVERYONE that wants Ectos can get them and ectos will drop like ambers and jadites and EVERYONE can afford FOW armors as it should be.

Just remember for everyone who doesn't like overpowered skills there's 5 more that do.

BS.

It's exactly the same with Shadow Form which was a superpowerful skill even before this buff, now it's just insane.

ElinoraNeSangre · Jun 05, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Saying that SF will destroy the economy is like saying that dropping a nuke on a town that already had a nuke dropped on it will destroy the town...

The town is already leveled.

Yichi · Jun 05, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Shadow Form is just fine and I'm all for it. Now EVERYONE that wants Ectos can get them and ectos will drop like ambers and jadites and EVERYONE can afford FOW armors as it should be.

Just remember for everyone who doesn't like overpowered skills there's 5 more that do.

And this sums up the problem with what this game has turned into.

wilderness · Jun 05, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre

The town is already leveled.

Indeed.

And FoW armour is supposed to be something of a chore/expense to attain. While not the prestigious monument it used to be, it's still enough of an achievement (especially for the not so hardcore).

Making it an easier acquisition is never a good thing.

palavar · Jun 05, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

lmao well any person who thinks it will destroy the economy is wrong its actually invigorating it. Radiant insigs are rocketing up and all shadow runes are unavailable and any greedy person like me would see the minute ectos drop to 4.5k there would be a mad dash to buy em up thus returning them to an average 5k everytime.

Alastair · Jun 05, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

The economy may experience some inflationary pricing at some levels however lets not forget that ectos are also consumable. Many people farming ectos are simply doing it for the armor. How will my set of armor affect the buying and selling of other items?

-Alastair

Neo Nugget · Jun 05, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by Alastair

The economy may experience some inflationary pricing at some levels however lets not forget that ectos are also consumable. Many people farming ectos are simply doing it for the armor. How will my set of armor affect the buying and selling of other items?

-Alastair

Yeah, it's what 120 ecto for a full set of FoW? Some people are also just hording their stacks of ectos, so not every ecto is being sold to people or the trader.

Red Sonya · Jun 05, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Shadow Form is just fine and I'm all for it. Now EVERYONE that wants Ectos can get them and ectos will drop like ambers and jadites and EVERYONE can afford FOW armors as it should be. Just remember for everyone who doesn't like overpowered skills there's 5 more that do.

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And this sums up the problem with what this game has turned into.

Only problem is for those that can't adjust to change. It's very simple once again if you don't like the game, don't play the game.

ChillOutDude · Jun 05, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33

So if they nerf [skill]shadow form[/skill] , i'll be back to the good old VwK (and many others).

so it won't be 10 ecto's a run , it will be 5-8 boohooo really .

palavar · Jun 05, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Red Sonya you are right and also it is just a game .And heres a little story to tell people how to get over sf:
Last sunday me and a few guildies wanted to finish urgoz,and we decided to try and go without ursan(amazing another contraversal skill),I went a caster dervish ,and the others went barragers.Entered the mission killed the pop ups went to the first mob, ended up agroing the whole room and in a furiously funny fight we wiped .We were all laughing and even one suggested we try on HM.since the fun was over and we wanted it finished we resorted to plan ursan (ironic huh).
Hidden Message:Why complain about a certain skill when there are hundreds which can be put togther to make a fun build

Alastair · Jun 05, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

Yeah, it's what 120 ecto for a full set of FoW? Some people are also just hording their stacks of ectos, so not every ecto is being sold to people or the trader.

There have always been people farming ectos. There have always been people hording ectos. With stable merchant prices the economy cannot deviate but so much in any direction. Regular players will always be able to get what they need to play the game.

There is nothing to fuss about.

-Alastair